I have raised this on a previous thread but euroserve had not heard of this being an issue. Fiat Ducato 2.3 Multijet H/Rf Van 180 Power Comfortmatic. Comfortmatic refers to the gearbox not the engine. Then remove 2 short self tapping torque screws just inside the small storage pocket (Mine has the gauges for the Air Assist suspension). Fiat Ducato Gearbox Problems – The Cause. My vehicles have exactly the same 95Ah battery as the manual transmission models. - Short Wheel Base - Low Roof - 8m3 storage - 1,605kg payload - 2,670mm load bay length Fiat Ducato 2 3 multijet 130 150 Turbotune Diesel Chip Tuning Box fitting guide - Duration: 4:38. The Iveco-built 2.3litre 150bhp motor initially became available in Ducato “X250" vehicles in mid-2011 in Euro 5 form. OOPS, typo error. Previous 2010 Ducato X250, with manual gearbox, lovely toasty warm feet, therefore assumed there was a problem with the new van. Now corrected. Fiat Ducato (2006 on) 4. Latest update is that northern commercials have ruled out wiring and sensors and now say that the controller that changes gears may be at fault. .pdf, v2Fiat Ducato 2016 Foot rest removal to install vents to improve warm air to drivers footwell. Fiat recommends that the gearbox’s ‘manual mode’ should be selected. On board Fiat Ducato Camper, the Comfort-Matic gearbox, available with the Multijet2 130, 150 and 180 engines, not only reduces effort but also cuts fuel consumption, because it always engages the right gear in every situation. In that case I recall the incorrect battery was fitted by Fiat during manufacture as apparently the Comfortmatic and non Comfortmatic batteries are different. The hardest bit was pulling out the plastic pin on the floor and undoing the 1 x 6mm nut which, together with 2 self tapping torque screws at the top hold the footrest in place. On that one I normally had toasty warm feet when driving. I have to turn the heat up to 30 deg to get my feet warm then after 10min turn it down before we roast, so much for auto systems. The Fiat Ducato (also known as the X244) produced between 2003 and 2008 has formed the basis of a wide assortment of motorhomes, ranging from panel van conversions, through traditional coachbuilt vehicles to A-class motorhomes with an integrated cab. ... Make sure it works. Up front the awkward nose is a nod to practicality. Subscribers  do not see these advertisements. Hi Nick, I am not mechanically minded so do struggle to ask the right questions. Check also how many FIAT are Still on the road in UK.. Copyright © Warners Group Publications Plc. In mid-2014 the Ducato X250 design was facelifted, The revised range was now generally referred to as “X290” and the Euro 5 150bhp motor was tweaked, with Fiat calling its emissions standard “Euro 5+”. I have been told that they will now discuss the situation with Northern commercials and keep me updated on progress. We have also swapped out the master cylkinder which is part of the comfortmatic unit with another vehicle which we know is good. Overall rating. It features an innovative look with a sleek line and dynamic, robust character, where style meets functionality in a striking design. Company Registered in England no. 2.3 litre 150bhp MWB. 2. For additional information, consult the User Handbook to which this Supplement is attached. This guy received a full paint job after going to fiat. Fresh water piping. The pump consists of a small gear pump and the powering electric motor. It seems that when the engine heats up, the wiring harness below and behind the dashboard, (above the bonnet hinge around the offside headlight) expands and shorts out against the wiper motor arm. JavaScript is disabled. As I said, the garage technician actually removed the footrest, but I think it is just a couple of bolts to undo, then unclip? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. GB 638 3492 15. http://www.motorhomefacts.com/ftoptitle-102455-intermittent-power-loss-3-ltr-fiat-comfortmatic-gearbox.html, http://www.unipartautomotive.co.uk/electrical/alternators-dynamos/Fiat/Ducato/all/3.0/2011/Parts.aspx, http://www.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/Motorhomes/Motorhome-Matters/X2-50-black-smoke-and-loss-of-torque-at-lower-revs/34292/31/#M414945, https://www.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/Motorhomes/Motorhome-Matters/That-X2-50-engine-gearbox-earth-strap-again-/33081/, http://www.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/Motorhomes/Motorhome-Matters/X-250-Vehicle-battery-Under-the-passengerrs-feet-/33651/, http://vanleasingmadesimple.com/van-leasing/fiat/ducato/battery-amps, http://www.motorhomefacts.com/ftopic-122006-days0-orderasc-0.html. They replaced that and it's been fine since (fingers crossed of course). 5. We must admit, the older we seem to get, the lazy bit crepes in. The Ducato range is one of the longest-serving nameplates in the large van sector, with the first version arriving as far back as 1981. If you are looking for a specific Fiat Ducato variant, it will help if you first select your preferred body style. At first Northern Commercials couldn't find a fault, either by driving or diagnostics, as it was intermittent. Fiat Ducato 2015, 3 berth motorhome for sale in Pembrokeshire. Thanks for the pics I'll take a closer look later. My first day on your forum and already you have solved my cold feet problem on my Comfortmatic fitted Mohawk. This is an original and brandnew spare part. Comfortmatic is a "robotic" gearbox - ie. reviewed by honkytonkpiano on 7 April 2016. Or the the firm that wanted to rip box out. Fiat is renewing its efforts in the large van market, with a refreshed line-up spearheaded by the 2020 Ducato. There are 27 recall actions in UK related to FIAT DUCATO. You are using an out of date browser. They sound clueless......hope you get sorted. Overall reliability. My vehicle is a 3ltr Comfortmatic, from 2000 26000miles on the clock., I would be interested to know what age and mileage the OP's 'van is. Hi Derry - looks like an impressive job you've done there! It came to us with the issue that it wouldnt go into gear, we have put a clutch in it along with a slave cylinder. Yes I had the same problem with the 2019 Fiat Ducato that we hired. Fiat Ducato. Page 2 This Supplement describes the procedure for using the COMFORT-MATIC electronically controlled manual gearbox on the Fiat Ducato. Here's hoping it's the same in an A class cab. 2572212 | VAT Registration No. Some say the quality of the metal parts is inferior. The latest recall action was on January 24th, 2020. Who wants to spend This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Well, that all depends on your own personal circumstances and preferences. I have just done this modification and going away Tuesday for 3 weeks so will see if there is any difference. 3. Find out more. However, I should make it clear it was only an issue for me because we have the comfortmatic semi-automatic gearbox. Fiat boasts the squarest, boxiest cargo area on the market, not a claim you would hear at a “normal” press conference. No problems to date. Frankly I don't feel like having an argument with the dealer either but I have looked at my van and the drawings on the parts disc and find that the controller and hydraulic equipment has to be removed before the gearbox can come off. 4. Experience at the dealership. Vehicle is from 2008, not 2000. Posted on 30/08/2017 18:24. Fiat have complicated it by introducing a gear selector which they describe as ‘a floating multistable lever, i.e. The Comfort-Matic robotised gearbox is also an option for the 130 and 150 versions of the 2.3litre Euro 5 MultiJet motor. Where do they all go. For the correct use of the gearbox, it is essential to read this Supplement in full to find out at the outset which operations are correct and permissible. Very easy to drive, a plenty of torque for steep hills etc. see attached pdf. Fiat Ducato Engine Problems Fiat Ducato Engine Problems Brandybottle replied on 30/08/2017 18:24. We have a number of Fiat Ducato lease deals listed on this page. The Fiat Professional Ducato is "city-proof". It would slip out of gear and go into limp mode, where the vehicle would just stop in the middle of the road when turning corners, or going through roundabouts. From what other more informed contributors have said,first earth strap, then wiring loom behind dash, Would not trust fiat I'm afraid, they are masters of denial! I have a fiat ducato 2011 with the comfortmatic gearbox. It only takes a glance at the bumpers, the grille, the headlights to see that style is of the essence on the Ducato. 603.95.838 Ducato MTA Confort GB:603_83_787 Ducato Dual ITA 2-11-2011 9:50 Pagina 1 We decided to check it out. I posted some time ago that I couldn't get my feet warm in winter when driving our 2016 Fiat Ducato X290, with comfortmatic gearbox. All Rights Reserved. Improving safety was clearly high on the agenda for Fiat, and the Ducato comes with Roll-Over Mitigation and Load Adaptive Control to improve stability, as well as a driver's airbag. The battery is a red herring. use the search function puuting in "earth strap" and "euroserv" as author and you will get this. But will it be enough to chip away at the dominance of the Ford Transit and Mercedes-Benz Sprinter? "The gearbox problem is solved and it was nothing to do with the Comfortmatic gearbox after all. .pdf, New member with some news about Comfortmatic gearbox. [tabs] [tab title="The problem" start=open] The pump supplies the hydraulic pressure for the different consumers (actuators) of the Comfort-Matic and stores it in the pressure accumulator. And the other pic is of the footwell in the cab after the plastic has been removed, which I think now looks very much like if you had a manual gearbox (but obviously the clutch pedal would be just there in the space). Today’s Ducato range is powered by a line-up of Fiat’s Euro 6 Multijet II common-rail diesel engines. Wow, that looks innovative, and very professional. The more i think and the more i google... i would really like to try and rule out the gearbox ECU with a test that would prove it for certain. Apologies for the many typos. it can take up three stable positions and three unstable positions.’ This largely means that for the first few hours of driving you have absolutely no idea either of the position you are in nor of the position you ought to be in. I hope warm air (rather than cold air! ) I'm pretty sure that the only forum-member able to give you informed advice about this would be Nick Fisher (euroserv). Sounds fantastic, do you have any photos or a walk through on how to remove it? Brandybottle. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I did have a brief look sometime ago when my fiat dealer explained why my feet never got warm. How practical it is. We have the 3ltr Ducato with Comfortmatic and love it, it's a great combination. Because the Ducato is front-wheel-drive, Fiat located the transverse engines under the hood, not between the seats like you see in GM and Ford vans. Fiat Ducato 2016 Foot rest removal to install vents to improve warm air to drivers footwell. Battery issues are mentioned above. How to use the Fiat Comfort-Matic gearbox in our 2019 Roller Team and Swift motorhomes/campervans Great drive. comes out of them! Arjx you have my every sympathy our autotrail cheyanne's comfortmatic konked out when van was three years old ,weeks and weeks we were waiting for dealers to try and discover what was wrong in the end I part exed it for a new van : but I did end up getting in touch with fiat who I might add were very helpfull ,I'm not mechanically minded but it turned out to be the clutch wouldn't engage or something (I didn't think they had a clutch when automatic but apparently they do) my friend also discovered on the Internet that if you don't have a strong enough vehicle battery it affects the performance of the comfortmatic(it's a couple of years ago now so I can't remember all details but I do remember that I wished I'd got in touch with fiat earlier than I did the dealers didnt have a clue if I'd had my time again I'd have taken it to stoneacre our local fiat commercial dealers anyhow good luck I thought it was heart attack time when it happened to us it was so stressfull: pp :)). I can't specifically help with your question. Apparently the vehicle goes into 'limp mode' when it happens. I have read somewhere that when a battery loses voltage as it gets older or for some other reason then problems with the Comfortmatic electrics have occurred. They say it's a gearbox out job (which they quote 9hrs labour) then the new part to try is £1800, plus the labour to fit.. Then gearbox back in and see what happens! According to forums I have read the gearbox was originally a 4 speed design and the 5th gear was bolted on afterwards. I did, as I was querulous to see where the air duct outlet was. The problem in this case was due to a wiring issue and reinforces the point made by Nick that wiring is the most likely cause when a fault occurs: For the earlier poster.. My van has done 10k miles approx.. Fiat is one manufacturer that’s persevering with semi-automatics and is offering one on the front-wheel drive Ducato under the Comfort-Matic banner. 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