"3 Briefe von Beethoven ... sie werden wohl an Josephine sein, die er leidenschaftlich geliebt hat." They were born for each other. That Josephine could have been the unknown woman was subsequently suggested by analyses of similarities in wordings and phrases between earlier letters (from 1804 to 1809) and this mysterious one from 1812, mainly in the monographs by Massin (1955, 1970), Goldschmidt (1980) and Tellenbach (1983, p. 103 f.):[15], In his biography of Beethoven, Schindler (1840) named Julie ("Giulietta") Guicciardi as the "Immortal Beloved". ), "Ohne schlüssige Beweise des Gegenteils wird man sich nicht mehr voreilig von der zunehmend begründeten Annahme trennen wollen, daß die 'Unsterbliche Geliebte' schwerlich eine andere als die 'Einzig Geliebte' war." (Solomon 1998, p. 218). The coach broke down, of course, owing to the dreadful road which had not been made up and was nothing but a country track. [31] Schmidt-Görg dismissed Kaznelson's discoveries as "sensationalist". Miss Kissi-Debra described reading Beethoven’s love letters to Ella after they had their final meal together on Valentine’s Day evening before her fatal asthma attack. ", Beahrs, Virginia Oakley (1988): "The Immortal Beloved Riddle Reconsidered.". Two of three letters by Beethoven to Bettina (and published by her) are generally considered forgeries (like similar letters by Goethe she published), although Walden devotes an entire Chapter setting out evidence in support of the letter's authenticity. This letter is a touching and passionate love letter, written to someone who he loves and who clearly loves him back. ", Tellenbach, Marie-Elisabeth (1998): "Psychoanalyse und historisch-philologische Methode. (Goldschmidt 1980). It was written to an unknown woman who Beethoven simply called his *Immortal Beloved. (Therese's Diary, March 1848, in Goldschmidt 1980, p. Beethoven's Love Letters Here are Beethoven's 3 love letters to Immortal Beloved. (Antonie to Clemens, 26 January 1811, in Goldschmidt 1980, p. 524), "Den 2tn März, 1812 mir vom Author erbethen.". [21] A summary of the older literature can be found in Forbes (1967, pp. "[53] Solomon (1972, p. 572) declares that Beethoven's separation from his "Only Beloved" Josephine two years before (due to her second marriage) does not rule out that she could have been the "Immortal Beloved": "There is no certainty that the affair was not momentarily rekindled a half-decade later. But curiously enough, it is precisely the same documents which shed a definitive light, in the negative sense, on Therese which bear witness to Beethoven's passionate love for her sister Josephine. Eine Biographie [Beethoven: The Lonely Revolutionary. 1. the woman must have been in Prague and Karlsbad around the time in question (like Beethoven); 2. she must have been closely acquainted (at least on very friendly terms) with Beethoven, at the time immediately before this event. Goldschmidt (1980, p. 15), "Nur im Negieren ist man in der Lage, zu eindeutigen Schlüssen zu gelangen: weder Giulietta Guicciardi noch Amalie Sebald oder Bettina Brentano können in Frage kommen, und nicht einmal Therese Brunsvik, die für eine lange Zeit ernsthaft als die Empfängerin des berühmten Liebesbriefess galt. Her first name was in fact "Julie", as she was always called (Steblin 2009); in Beethoven's dedication of his, Thayer (rev. It is unclear whether or not the letter was ever sent, or if it was sent, if it was returned. [46] His hypothesis was founded on two major assumptions (or prerequisites): ad 1: Antonie arrived in Prague on 3 July 1812 after an arduous journey with husband, child and servant (and was registered there); she left at dawn the following morning: "Where did she have time that night for a tryst with Beethoven?" Intimate friends of Beethoven, true, one and all; but loves? The Immortal Beloved (German "Unsterbliche Geliebte") is the addressee[1] of a love letter which composer Ludwig van Beethoven wrote on 6–7 July 1812 in Teplitz. ist es doch wie ein Traum, [daß] er der Freund, der Vertraute unseres Hauses war – ein herrlicher Geist – warum nahm ihn meine Schwester J. nicht zu ihrem Gemahl als Witwe Deym? [16] But research by Tellenbach (1983) indicated that her cousin Franz von Brunsvik may have suggested Giulietta to Schindler, to distract any suspicion away from his sister Josephine Brunsvik, with whom Beethoven had been hopelessly in love from 1799 to ca. Beethoven's women: class differences, the immortal beloved and a possible love child Countess Josephine Brunsvik. They were therefore not independent objective requirements at all." The entire letter is written on 10 small pages, in Beethoven's rather inconsistent handwriting. The Beethoven Immortal Beloved letter was found after Beethoven's death at the same time as "Heiligenstadt's Testament" is made up of two double pages, written on both sides, (8 pages), of about 200 x 238 mm and on a single sheet of about 201 x 119 mm both sides. (Therese's Diary, 4 February 1846, in Schmidt-Görg 1957, p. Le mieux est l'ennemi du bien – both together they would have been happy (perhaps). [Beethoven's Immortal Beloved. This was then also in response to the biography by Schindler (1840), refuting his hypothesis that Julie Guicciardi was the "immortal Beloved". [Anton Schindler's Fabricated Entries in the Conversation Books.]. Beethoven 127. There was no address on the letter, and no envelope was found (thus suggesting it was probably never sent). … Die dilettantischen Verse haben ebenfalls Stammbuchcharakter. These I haveinserted in chronological order, and marked withthe letter K., in order to distinguish them from thecorrespondence edited by Dr. Nohl. So, it was obviously important to Beethoven to deliver a good job here. "[41] Goldschmidt (1980), p. 235. [Artists and the Class Society in 1800: the Role of Guardianship Laws in Beethoven's Relationship to Josephine Countess Deym. This letter to an unnamed "Immortal Beloved" was found in the personal papers of Ludwig van Beethoven after his death in 1827. Beahrs, Virginia (1990): "My Angel, My All, My Self": A Literal Translation of Beethoven's Letter to the Immortal Beloved. Sie wäre glücklicher gewesen als mit St[ackelberg]. Immortal Beloved refers to a 10-page unsent love letter found in Beethoven’s estate following his death in 1827. ... All of the puzzling aspects about Beethoven's affair with the 'Immortal Beloved', including his various cryptic comments, can be explained in terms of his one known beloved – Josephine. * Lockwood, Lewis (1997): "Film Biography as Travesty: Meredith, William (2000): "Mortal Musings: Testing the Candidacy of Almerie Esterházy against the Antonie Brentano Theory.". Miss Kissi-Debra described reading Beethoven’s love letters to Ella after they had their final meal together on Valentine’s Day evening before her fatal asthma attack. No doubt we shall meet soon; and today also time fails me to tell you of the thoughts which during these last few days I have been revolving about my life--If our hearts were always closely united, I would certainly entertain no such thoughts. – Die Hand des Schicksals ruht düster auf mir – Ich sah nebst meinem tiefen Kummer auch noch die Entartung meiner Kinder und – fast – aller Muth wich von mir –!!! The only difference between these Beethoven's Eternal Love declarations and the declarations in the Letters to "The Immortal Beloved" is the "You" ("polite form") in this Letter: ([Vienna, 1805 first quarter]) and the "You" in the Letters to the "Eternally Beloved" written by Beethoven in July 1812: "ewig dein = eternally yours - ewig mein = eternally mine - ewig uns = eternally ours". "… da Giulietta ihre Affären nicht verheimlichte…" [… since Giulietta did not cover up her affairs…] (Tellenbach 1983, p. 17), (the "Louis" mentioned by Therese in her diary was in fact Count Louis Migazzi), "The tone of the notes to Amalie Sebald in September, 1812, is incompatible with that of the letter to the 'Immortal Beloved'." "[34], Riezler (1962, p. 46), still very much a "standard" German biography of Beethoven, followed Kaznelson regarding Josephine being his "only love", likewise Dahlhaus (1991, p. 247) who concluded that "internal evidence" points to Josephine. More love letters (also by Josephine to Beethoven) were published by Schmidt-Görg (1969), "Der Umstand, daß man … als Folge dieser Begegnung eine natürliche Tochter in Kauf zu nehmen hatte, erschien der professionellen Welt als so abenteuerlich, daß die Widerstände gegen die Josephinen-Hypothese sich merklich versteiften." This page was last edited on 31 December 2020, at 17:58. A crucial figure in the transition between the Classical and Romantic eras in Classical music, he remains one of the most recognized and influential of all composers. Anthony Burgess chose Beethoven as the favored composer for his character Alex in A Clockwork Orange, because dear olde Ludwig van was a rebel, a romantic, a revolutionary who struggled all of his life against poverty, injustice and ill health to produce genius art. Tantalizing is the assumption, because, Absurd, they argue, is the assumption because of. Once again and more detailed Solomon (1972, 1998) suggested Antonie Brentano to have been the "Immortal Beloved". [Ich müßte heilige Bande verletzen, gäbe ich Ihrem Verlangen Gehör – Glauben Sie – daß ich, durch Erfüllung meiner Pflichten, am meisten leide – und daß gewiß, edle Beweggründe meine Handlungen leiteten.] [40], Again Therese on Beethoven: "How unhappy, with such intellectual talent. ), Learn how and when to remove this template message, Ira F. Brilliant Center for Beethoven Studies, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Immortal_Beloved&oldid=997474477, Articles needing additional references from November 2019, All articles needing additional references, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Caeyers, Jan: Beethoven. Walden's book is also summarized and reviewed by Patricia Stroh in the, "Ich habe heute einen schweren Tag. The cycle sets excerpts from Beethoven's letter of 6–7 July 1812. [Psychoanalysis and Historiocritical Method. left a lot to be desired, as far as basic expertise in Viennese topography is concerned. "Von der Meldepflicht bei Kurzaufenthalten waren ... Inländer befreit." Aoki, Yayoi (1959): "Ai no densetsu – Betoven to 'fumetsu no koibito'" (Love-legends – Beethoven and the "Immortal Beloved"), Beahrs, Virginia Oakley (1972): "New Light on Beethoven's Immortal Beloved? A Contribution to his Biography.]. (p. xv) "Tellenbach ... too has unfortunately never appeared in English translation." Josephinens Haus- und Herzensfreund! Tellenbach, Marie-Elisabeth (1987): "Beethoven and the Countess Josephine Brunswick. All we know is that it was written on the 6th and 7th of July. She would have been happier with him than with Stackelberg. There is still room for a reasonable doubt." Newman, William S (1984): "Yet Another Major Beethoven Forgery by Schindler? as it is now!!!! Yet my life in V[ienna] at present is a miserable life--Your love has made me both the happiest and the unhappiest of mortals--At my age I now need stability and regularity in my life--can this coexist with our relationship?--Angel, I have just heard that the post goes every day--and therefore I must close, so that you may receive the letter immediately--Be calm; for only by calmly considering our lives can we achieve our purpose to live together--Be calm--love me--Today--yesterday--what tearful longing for you--for you--you--my life--my all--all good wishes to you--Oh, do continue to love me--never misjudge your lover's most faithful heart. ... Dilettante verses ... by a clumsy author, a real dilettante, a coffeehouse poet. After Beethoven’s death in 1827 an unsent love letter was discovered dedicated to his ‘Immortal Beloved’ – but who was she? Famous German poet Johann Wolfgang von Goethe was also in love more than once in his life. … The love affair was under way by late 1811. Beethoven’s Love Letters On This Page The Immortal Beloved Letters The Early Candidates for the Immortal Beloved The Later Candidates Recent Theories Letters to Unknown Women Once upon a time in old Vienna, the great composer Ludwig von Beethoven passed away quietly at his home. However, this had not been noticed outside Japan. It was not addressed to anyone specific (there was no address, city, or name written on the letter) nor was it dated with a year. He had dedicated in the same year to her daughter Maxe a one-movement trio. La Mara (1909) published Teréz Brunszvik's memoirs, which show her full of admiration and adoration of Beethoven. Der einsame Revolutionär. (Solomon 1998, p. 461, n. Beethoven and Antonie, since her return to Vienna, were "on friendly terms", In the summer of 1812 he lived in the same hotel in Franzensbad as the Brentanos, and. "… es war mir leid, lieber V. den letzten Abend in Prag nicht mit ihnen zubringen zu können, und ich fand es selbst für unanständig, allein ein Umstand den ich nicht vorhersehen könnte, hielt mich davon ab." "[55] and: "In order to possibly verify the Antonia-Hypothesis with its inherent factual contradictions once and forever, it is necessary to falsify the other hypotheses that have been offered. "[38], "Beethoven! Goethe's many love letters. (, "... les nombreuses lettres qu'il écrira à Antonina marquent une amitié profonde mais presque cérémonieuse à force d'être réservée, et Beethoven semble toujours considérer Franz, Antonia et leurs enfants comme un ensemble undivisible." without you--pursued by the kindness of people here and there, a kindness that I think-that I wish to deserve just as little as I deserve it--man's homage to man--that pains me--and when I consider myself in the setting of the universe, what I am and what is the man--whom one calls the greatest of me--and yet--on the other hand therein lies the divine element in man==I weep when I think that probably you will not receive the first news of me until Saturday--However much you love me--good night--Since I am taking the baths I must get off to sleep--Dear God--so near! (Goldschmidt 1980, p. Take note of how these artists and authors expressed their undying love for their significant others. The letter was addressed to "My Angel...", but as the term "Immortal Beloved" (appearing only once towards the end of the letter) was unique in Beethoven's vocabulary, it has been used ever since. (Steblin 2007, p. 180). (Steblin 2007, p. 148) Yes, I am resolved to be a wanderer abroad until I can fly to your arms and say that I have found my true home with you and enfolded in your arms can let my soul be wafted to the realm on blessed spirits--alas, unfortunately it must be so--You will become composed, the more so as you know that I am faithful to you; no other woman can ever possess my heart--never--never--Oh God, why must one be separated from her who is so dear. "[39] She could not contemplate marrying Beethoven, a commoner, for the simple reason that she would have lost the guardianship of her aristocratic children. Thayer thought the letter must have been written around 1806-07. Beethoven dedicated his Diabelli Variations Op. [35], The French authors Jean and Brigitte Massin (1955) identified Josephine as the "Immortal Beloved", mainly based on comparisons of the "Letter to the Immortal Beloved" with the earlier 14 (15) love letters: "The letter to the 'Immortal Beloved' ... not only uses similar wording, but also emphasizes his long-time faithfulness to his one and only Beloved. A more plausible contender is the Hungarian aristocrat Josephine von Brunsvik, to whom Beethoven wrote a series of love letters in the early months of 1805. [49], ad 2: There are no love letters from or to Antonie, and no other documents supporting the possibility of a love relationship with Beethoven, there is only a letter by Antonie to her brother-in-law Clemens, where she expressed her "admiration" of Beethoven:[50] "At what point this worship was transformed into love is not yet known. Swafford, Jan: Beethoven: Anguish and Triumph. (Beethoven's mention in the letter of Prince Esterházy's presence at Teplitz confirms that the year must have been 1812) (Goldschmidt 1980). London: Faber & Faber 2014. I have onlyomitted a few brief notes, consi… [4] The letter is written in pencil and consists of three parts. And he seemed as passionately in love with his IMMORTAL BELOVED as he was with his infinitely immortal classical notes that will forever remain immortal in me. I must reiterate that we have no such evidence of a passionate love relationship between Antonie and Beethoven either, just of a close friendship; for Josephine, … we know he was indeed passionately in love with her in 1805-1807 at least. Josephine's intimate friend, her soul mate! "[37], After Massin & Massin (1955) and Goldschmidt (1980), Tellenbach (1983, 1987, 1988, 1999) argued extensively the case for Josephine, based on many newly discovered documents, like Therese's later diary notes, e.g., on the discovery of the "Three letters by Beethoven … they must have been to Josephine whom he loved passionately. New Perspectives on the Love Story of the Great Composer. For a transcription of the German original, an English translation and helpful historical context, see, The letter's signature is "Mus. "I would have to violate sacred bonds if I gave in to your request – Believe me – that I, by doing what is my duty, suffer the most – and that surely noble motives were guiding my actions." (Steblin 2007, p. 148) Solomon (1972, p. 577) admits: "There is no proof that Beethoven and Antonie met in Prague." autogr. ", Tellenbach, Marie-Elisabeth (1988): "Künstler und Ständegesellschaft um 1800: die Rolle der Vormundschaftsgesetze in Beethovens Beziehung zu Josephine Gräfin Deym." Josephines Herzensfreund! ], Tellenbach, Marie-Elisabeth (1999): "Die Bedeutung des Adler-Gleichnisses in Beethovens Brief an Therese Gräfin Brunswick. In his numerous letters, compositions and notes there are some - albeit unrequited - declarations of love. Newman, Ernest (1911): "A Beethoven Hoax?". ", Beck, Dagmar & Herre, Grita (1979): "Anton Schindlers fingierte Eintragungen in den Konversationsheften." Therefore, a total of 10 pages make up the Immortal Beloved letter. ), Solomon's hypothesis was contested by Goldschmidt (1980), Tellenbach (1983, 1987, 1988, 1993/1994, 1998), Beahrs (1972, 1986, 1988, 1993), Dahlhaus (1991), Pichler (1994), Altman (1996), Meredith (2000), Steblin (2007), Walden (2011), Caeyers (2012), and Swaffort (2014). Beethoven's love letter is very famous and often quoted in literary media as well as television, movies, and commercials. Kaznelson (1954) evaluated more of the documents in the Brunsvik estates, and even though he thought that Rahel Varnhagen was behind the "Distant Beloved" he concluded that the "Immortal Beloved" must have been Josephine mainly because her daughter Minona was born exactly nine months after the encounter with Beethoven and her husband Baron Stackelberg was away. Write love letters like Ludwig van Beethoven In love, but no words for it? In 14 love letters between 1804 and 1809, the … Beethoven did not indicate who the intended recipient is, but the most likely candidates are Countess Giulietta Guicciardi, Josephine von Brunsvik, Antonie Brentano, and Josephine’s sister, Countess Therese Brunsvik. Sie waren für einander geboren. Whether the pieces can be read as veritable love letters from Beethoven to the countess, as was recently posited on the occasion of a new recording of the Adagio, remains to be seen. 159. ", Pulkert's (2000) claim about one Almerie Esterházy, whom Beethoven did not even know, was refuted by Steblin (2001). 296. To learn more about Beethoven, including his nine symphonies and recommended recordings, stop by the One-Stop Beethoven Resource page. On Maynard Solomon's Interpretations of Beethoven and Schubert. Ludwig van Beethoven (1770-1827), one of history’s most famous and mysterious composers died at the age of 57 with one great secret. 1. Copy from Beethoven! (Beethoven's "Immortal Beloved": the Riddle Solved.). Forbes, 1967), Thomas-San-Galli (1909, 1910), La Mara (1920), Rolland (1928), Thomas-San-Galli (1909, 1910); see: Goldschmidt (1977), pp. Beethoven was known to love many women, and as his friend F.G. Wegeler once wrote, "Beethoven was never out of love." Viele Beethoven-Forscher wollten dies aber nicht glauben und gaben in Tages- und Fachzeitschriften ihrer Überzeugung Ausdruck, daß es sich zweifellos um ein wertvolles echtes Stück handelt.] [... veröffentlichte Bekker, der von ihm publizierte Beethoven-Brief sei eine Fälschung. Schmidt-Görg (1957) published 13 heretofore unknown love letters by Beethoven to Josephine Brunsvik (and a draft letter by him that survived as a copy by Josephine), that could be dated to the period from 1804 to 1809/10 when she was a widow after the early death of her first husband Count Deym. "I was so lucky to have been acquainted with Beethoven, intimately and intellectually, for so many years! [Beethoven's sacred hands, whom I deeply admire, he is walking divinely among mortals, his elevated stature opposed to the world beneath.] sei." What a life!!!! The letter was found amongst the composers things after his death. (Goldschmidt 1980, p. 165 f.), "Um die Antonia–Hypothese möglicherweise mit den ihr sachlich innewaltenden Widersprüchen endgültig zu verifizieren, bedarf es der Falsifizierung anderer sich anbietender Hypothesen." [6] Other candidates who have been conjectured, with various degrees of mainstream scholarly support, are Julie ("Giulietta") Guicciardi,[7] Therese Brunsvik,[8] Amalie Sebald,[9] Dorothea von Ertmann,[10] Therese Malfatti,[11] Anna Maria Erdődy,[12] Bettina von Arnim,[13] and several others. [New Documents about Beethoven and Josephine Countess Deym. "… requirements …, that the Immortal Beloved be a woman closely acquainted with Beethoven during the period in question." Jan 30, 2014 - These letters left me with an insatiable thirst for love. "[51] Solomon (1998, p. 229) quotes as supporting his case the Song "An die Geliebte" [To the Beloved] WoO 140, an autograph of which contains in Antonie's handwriting the remark: "Requested by me from the author on 2 March 1812. think of Beethoven’s music as having a certain universal appeal that transcends time, place and culture, his letters seem to express universal truths. Beethoven was known to love many women, and as his friend F.G. Wegeler once wrote, "Beethoven was never out of love." Sebald was definitely not in Prague at the beginning of July 1812, and Cooper (2000, p. 416) consequently ruled her out as a candidate. Steblin, Rita (2009a): "Beethovens 'Unsterbliche Geliebte': des Rätsels Lösung." ", Pulkert, Oldrich (2000): "Beethoven's Unsterbliche Geliebte." There has been many candidates, starting with Guilietta Guiccardi.Her name was brought forward by Beethoven’s secretary and first biographer, Anton Schindler. She also published her findings again in a recent book in German (Aoki 2008). Maternal affection made her forgo her own happiness. (Goldschmidt 1980, p. 138 f.) Goldschmidt's judgement about Stoll (1777-1815) is far too negative however. [29], Marek (1969) argued the case for Dorothea Ertmann.[30]. "[42] "The flaw in this [Solomon's] methodology [in Support of Antonie] was that he established requirements that he knew only his candidate could meet. "[52] The background to this: "In November 1811, we see Beethoven writing a newly composed song with the heading 'An die Geliebte' [To the Beloved] into the album of the Bavarian Court singer Regina Lang. Sie waren für einander geboren[,] und lebten beide noch, hätten sie sich vereint." A New Look at Beethoven's Diary Entry and the 'Immortal Beloved.". [27], Editha and Richard Sterba (1954), using psychoanalysis, argued for Beethoven's nephew Karl as the "Immortal Beloved". ... Ich habe Stackb zu liebe [mich] physisch zugrunde gerichtet indem ich ... noch so viele Kummer und Krankheit durch ihn zugezogen habe." Significant new discoveries in European archives were made and published by Steblin (2002, 2007, 2009, 2009a) and Skwara/Steblin (2007). These can be summarized into two important items: "A new way of looking at old evidence confirms that Josephine was Beethoven's one and only 'Immortal Beloved'. [The Meaning of the Eagle Allegory in Beethoven's Letter to Therese Countess Brunsvik. Walden (2011, p. 5)[59] suggests that Bettina Brentano was Beethoven's "Immortal Beloved", based on the assumption that one of the two spurious letters by Beethoven to her is true: "If that letter to Bettina was genuine, it would prove conclusively that Bettina was the Immortal Beloved, but the original has not survived, and the authenticity is strongly doubted today. Howell, Standley (1979): "Beethoven's Mälzel Canon. [But] many Beethoven scholars did not want to believe this, and in many newspapers and journals ... expressed their conviction that this was undoubtedly a valuable genuine document." (Josephine's Diary, 8 June 1812, in Steblin 2007, p. Czeke (1938), for the first time, published Therese's diary notes ending in 1813; some were known already to Rolland (1928). Goldschmidt's evaluation of the Josephine hypothesis: "Without conclusive proofs of the opposite one should no longer want to part prematurely with the increasingly justified assumption that the 'Immortal Beloved' could hardly be anyone else but the 'Only Beloved'."[43]. (Josephine Countess Brunsvik-Deym's Secret Revealed: New Results about her Relationship to Beethoven. 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